The Art of Being Conflicted

Love those real-estate half truths. Creative thin...

2013-06-19T13:51:55.239-05:00

Love those real-estate half truths. Creative thinking I call it :)
I was almost picked for a murder case, but I said I'd be hard pressed to give the death penalty. Just don't know if I could assign someone's death sentence!

Really, you got out of it because you had a child....

2013-06-19T06:46:18.119-05:00

Really, you got out of it because you had a child. That doesn't work here unless there are unusual circumstances.

You are so right about property descriptions...usually they are greatly exaggerated. People should really use caution when reading real estate ads.

It can be really interesting, if the case is inte...

2013-06-19T06:40:53.575-05:00

It can be really interesting, if the case is interesting. I, too, loved to watch Perry Mason and still enjoy all the shows that are law and order type of things.

I think it is real hit and miss here about jury duty. I hear a lot of people say they have never served and others, like me, that get called every couple of years. I like Chubby Chatterbox's idea of forming a volunteer jury system.(which couldn't really work because nut bags would want to sign up to let their buddies get off)

But... I would just volunteer in hopes of getting on an interesting case instead of some drug possession charge or other mundane case where you just sit for a couple of hours listening to evidence that is so overwhelming there is no way anyone could deny it.

What an odd thing to put on a application. Either ...

2013-06-19T06:30:16.369-05:00

What an odd thing to put on a application. Either he had his PhD or he didn't and by putting it as he did, it red flagged it.

While I chose the judicial system as illustrating the quality of liars, I could of used the "seeking employment" arena. The 7 years I managed the unemployment office there were loads of liars and many of them were really bad liars. Nearly everyone embellishes their resume in some way and I understand the reasons for that BUT some resumes were so outrageous that it was hard to keep a straight face during the interview.

House hunting can be fun but there is so much trut...

2013-06-19T06:21:22.609-05:00

House hunting can be fun but there is so much truth in the statement "buyer beware".

I have been dismissed once also because they came to a plea deal. The guy on trial, I am sure, appreciated that you were dismissed. He might not of gotten so lucky with the rest of the jurors. If you wanted him jailed probably some other folks did too.

When I was younger, I thought it would be cool to ...

2013-06-19T05:10:29.676-05:00

When I was younger, I thought it would be cool to sit on a jury. I blame Perry Mason. Now, not so much although I've never had the pleasure myself. I can't believe how many times you've been picked for jury duty. Is it normal in the US to be selected so many times?

Ok I have never served on a jury never recieved a ...

2013-06-19T02:39:09.551-05:00

Ok I have never served on a jury never recieved a notice to ring about jury duty nope never............oh hang on I did one 27yrs ago when Kathy was a newborn and I filled in a form saying I had a child under 18 and was exempt..............

As for property well when they say the place has a lake view it either means you can seee the lake if you hang out of one window on a fine day or the street it is on is called Lakeview.............lol

Your Dilbert cartoon reminds me of a situation whe...

2013-06-19T00:27:20.704-05:00

Your Dilbert cartoon reminds me of a situation when I was working in big industry. An applicant for an engineering position listed himself as having a PhDWT. When saked about it, he said it was a PhD Without Thesis. Where I come from, that's a Masters at most. It was creative lying but we didn't hire him.

Bud

HAHA! I love the real estate lie translation...we ...

2013-06-18T22:22:29.388-05:00

HAHA! I love the real estate lie translation...we are about to start house hunting, so I may dream up posts of my own. I've been called to jury duty twice; once, everyone pled so we were dismissed, and the other time, I admitted that I couldn't be impartial. I wasn't trying to get out of it, though, I really did want to send the person to jail. Hence realizing I couldn't be impartial.

All kidding aside, I think that nearly all the jur...

2013-06-18T22:16:02.423-05:00

All kidding aside, I think that nearly all the jurors, are conscientious and want to do the best they can to render a fair verdict. I, also think that for the most part, the lawyers, judges and such are hardworking, honest people. BUT in the 7 times I have served on juries, I have seen a few people involved that seems rather shady. One one case the person being charged changed her story several times on the stand. Her lies were so confusing that no one could keep her story straight.

I did jury duty last year and was amazed at the et...

2013-06-18T22:03:33.717-05:00

I did jury duty last year and was amazed at the ethics of the jury system!

OMG...I have to add that to my repertoire of prope...

2013-06-18T22:01:36.535-05:00

OMG...I have to add that to my repertoire of property descriptions. I love that. Of course, as there is so little waterfront property in Kansas, I will have to wait for the next heavy rain that produces flash floods.

That's the trick for sure...being totally unbi...

2013-06-18T21:26:46.034-05:00

That's the trick for sure...being totally unbiased and try to figure out the real story as both sides are sugar coating what the truth is. I am always amazed at what obvious lying is going on.

I think everyone at some point needs a good attorn...

2013-06-18T21:23:50.256-05:00

I think everyone at some point needs a good attorney. I like the honest but tough type. The problem is sometimes figuring out who the honest, hard working attorneys are.

As for jury duty, I don't mind serving from time to time. Invariably it is some minor case that lasts one day. Such as the case this time. I am done for at least one year. (here you can only serve in county court jury duty once a year)

That probably means your are a trusting person and...

2013-06-18T21:18:31.422-05:00

That probably means your are a trusting person and give people the benefit of the doubt. After years of managing an unemployment office, I am a pretty good detector of "less than honest" types. But, of course, some people are really GOOD liars.

I can see why you weren't selected for jury duty. Knowing both the dectective and the deputies doesn't make you impartial but it sure would be interesting to see how that would work out...esp. if you heard the evidence and sided with the person on trial.

I can't imagine how you have not been called f...

2013-06-18T21:14:52.025-05:00

I can't imagine how you have not been called for jury duty. I get called about every two years. One year I got called for city, county and district courts. Maybe they just like to mess with my schedule.

I think there should be a volunteer jury pool. That would take the heat off of all the people that have trouble working their jobs around it. Maybe they are suspicious of why a person would want jury duty. (it's not for the money)

Oh Oh! You forgot "waterfront property."...

2013-06-18T21:08:01.121-05:00

Oh Oh! You forgot "waterfront property." Here, that means you can have a puddle within spitting distance. Probably made by people spitting!!!

Hi Cheryl, $10? That sucks, you can't even ge...

2013-06-18T20:58:08.427-05:00

Hi Cheryl,
$10? That sucks, you can't even get a decent lunch out of that.
Serving in a Jury is hard, how do you make an unbiased opinion when everyone is lying?
Click!
Wolf

I've never served on a jury... never even been...

2013-06-18T20:55:37.533-05:00

I've never served on a jury... never even been invited. Beside the crappy pay I think I'd have a really hard time judging someone else.
I have on occasion needed an attorney, My guy is honest and blunt. he can find every technicality and common sense approach possible, but he's the type of guy that I know I can trust and not feel awkward about hiring.
Good Luck at your Jury Duty!
Clicks!
--Trina

I have always been told that my "truthfulness...

2013-06-18T20:35:56.687-05:00

I have always been told that my "truthfulness detector" needs some work... (More earthy term, BS detector). Anyway, the county must have thought it was good enough, I had been called for jury duty. But they dumped me out after the initial interview. Turns out, when you are friends with the detective that made the arrest, you are friends with deputies that are involved with the case, and your reading list includes several magazines having to do with things as varied as knitting, fishing, and firearms, both sides were looking askance. I didn't make jury... So I still don't know if my BS meter would have worked!

Cat

A fun post. I've always wanted to be called fo...

2013-06-18T20:29:29.555-05:00

A fun post. I've always wanted to be called for jury duty but I've managed to reach the age of sixty without being called. I hear they get suspicious if you volunteer. I'm a registered voter so I don't know why I'm not called/

Ah yes. Well that makes sense and yes clearly ...

2013-06-18T19:56:57.381-05:00

Ah yes. Well that makes sense and yes clearly that dude was guilty.

You might hold a jury hostage but everyone would b...

2013-06-18T16:36:26.897-05:00

You might hold a jury hostage but everyone would be having fun.

I think lawyers want at least a couple on the jury that would be a solid vote for their client. As for the cop's wife.... it wouldn't of mattered if she was biased or not in that case. I think all of us were unanimous that the guy was guilty. He was hiding drugs in his duffel bag going through the St. Louis airport. A drug dog detected him. This was way before 9/11 so there was a lot less scrutiny at the security gates.

Yes I still read an actual newspaper. I love havi...

2013-06-18T16:30:53.018-05:00

Yes I still read an actual newspaper. I love having my morning KC Star to look through in the morning.

Great line out of "A Few Good Men". Some of us might handle the truth but who would ever know if it WAS the truth?

Jury pay might be based on counties here as well but I read some where that the state of Kansas passed a bill in 1971 to set the ten dollar rate and it hasn't changed. Maybe some counties have increased their rates despite the Kansas bill. I don't really care but seems like a waste of bureaucracy It probably cost more than ten dollars to issue the checks. .

That Dilbert was just in the paper. Are you one t...

2013-06-18T15:23:08.129-05:00

That Dilbert was just in the paper. Are you one that stills reads a tree related newspaper? I do. Of course I read online too.

We are so good at rationalizing which shows creativity. Not all creativity is good, but it sounds better.

Remember according the Colonel in "A Few Good Men" there are those that "can't handle the truth".

http://youtu.be/5j2F4VcBmeo

Oh our jury pay varies by county. It's been too many years since I served on one.